Comments on: Lost opportunities for Fallout 3

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Ways in which Fallout 3 will be an improvement | PC Game Fun Time — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:51:03 +0000

[...] Lost opportunities for Fallout 3 [...]

By: Humungus

Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:44:39 +0000

I’m glad Gizmo pointed out the authors error, because I distinctly remember the silly tube top females in the chosen’s tribe wore. As for the rest, I’d say Prostitution and Child Killing are not going to be missed too much. While Child Killing was a quick path to evil, it truly was more of a pain in the ass then anything else. Even while playing as an evil char. I’d generally avoid killing children, usually it only happened during a battle in town with one of the NPC’s killing a kid with a critical miss.

By: Ben

Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:05:12 +0000

In Europe, Fallout 2 was already censored with child killing. On some version they were invisible and it created bugs on some quests and floating text from anywhere. On others, children were invincible, when we shot them down they only fall on the ground and they woke up 30 sec later. Sorry for my english, I’m french

By: Cyde Weys

Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:09:30 +0000

Man, I had forgotten how … pixellated that game was. And even if she wasn’t wearing that top, you wouldn’t really call it eye-popping nudity.

Now Grand Theft Auto’s Hot Coffee, on the other hand!

By: Gizmo

Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:45:23 +0000

Of course you know there was no nudity… The author is mistaken.

~ http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj125/Gizmojunk/scr00043.gif

By: Grokmoo

Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:36:44 +0000

To all the people saying that none of these things is really necessary, I largely agree. None of the things I mentioned in the article are necessary. It is just unfortunate that they were unilaterally removed for reasons that had nothing to do with the gameplay experience. They might enhance the game, or they might detract from it. In Fallout 1 & 2, I believe that these sorts of things did enhance the game in many cases. It is a shame that they are not even an option for Fallout 3 because of essentially political reasons.

By: Ike

Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:39:31 +0000

I dont see how those three things were really elemental in the Fallout series

By: 4too

Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:18:31 +0000

Friendly Fire: For Consenting Adults Only

Don’t know if there is ‘friendly fire’ in any form in B-soft’s FO3.
‘Friendly fire’ may not be suitable to FPS combat simulations for the present market, nor may it be technically possible.

The coding may be too hard, (FOT had some supernatural trajectories for the 50 cal. mg), and the target audience may be too immature for Real Life ballistics.

Friendly fire in FO1+2 could kill innocent bystanders. Fire fights in Den, the home of the Dickens’ like little thieves, could hit any one, including kids.

(How these little thieves deserved death, when the dirt poor PC stole everything not nailed down to get to the Den, … well, karma different in your time zone?)

A little planning, a little patience, a little maneuvering to spread out the fire team, paid off in fewer friend inflicted casualties.

Guess that sort of ownership of responsibility can’t be as big a unit sales accelerator as the kills per second per second of nex gen FPS’s.

Maybe in B-soft’s FO4? Some fire arm safety skills — sponsored by the NRA?

4too

By: L33tminion

Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:44:17 +0000

It’s not just ratings (although of course an AO rating would kill sales), it’s also more direct censorship laws. Fallout 2 had problems in some locales where depicting child-killing in a video game was illegal. The last-minute hackish solution was to remove the child sprites so that some local versions of the game had invisible children running around. Bethesda says they want the game to be the same in all locales, so they’re avoiding things they would legally have to censor in one region or another. Not sure I agree with that rationale, but I recognize that localization is challenging enough as it is, and I can’t blame them for following the law in locations where such laws are in effect.

Of course, I’m against censorship. But I think this will be a minor issue gameplay-wise.

By: Fallout

Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:17:23 +0000

They shouldn’t ban child killing, it’s fun! Because of them I can’t have nudity in the game!