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	<title>Comments on: Grand Theft Auto IV DRM debacle</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 18:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.pcgamefuntime.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/7d964c7bf98591a.png" alt="Liam Martin Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Liam Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.pcgamefuntime.com/2008/12/grand-theft-auto-iv-drm-debacle/#comment-10460</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 05:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the latest version of Grand Theft Auto have more detail on its graphics, nicely done...`</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the latest version of Grand Theft Auto have more detail on its graphics, nicely done&#8230;`</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.pcgamefuntime.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/4f8c2b24efa7071.png" alt="Alicia Matthews Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Alicia Matthews</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grand Theft Auto is so damn addicting game. I play 8 hours a day of GTA.~`,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grand Theft Auto is so damn addicting game. I play 8 hours a day of GTA.~`,</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.pcgamefuntime.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/1b59845c16fefe4.png" alt="Alex Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.pcgamefuntime.com/2008/12/grand-theft-auto-iv-drm-debacle/#comment-6019</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 08:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly im a massive fan of GTA i have bought every version from the first version on PC right through to GTA-SA, i dont mind paying a premium for such a game as it is worth every cent.  But i have seen GTA IV as nothing but a great idea which the end result for PC opwners with capable hardware limited due to the imposements of no dual card support no 64 bit support and a really shoddy optimization or port from console to PC. thos things in time could have been ironed out i guess but my valid reason i did not buy this game is that unbeleviably condescending anti piracy routine that makes the enjoyment of loading the game and going to play and save it an insult to what the developers think us users will endure.

I dont see why legitimate users always have to cop the brunt end of things i.e like mentioned above anti piracy advertisements on movies etc, all this does is promote ppl to go the other route as none of this nonsense is on them, as for being lesser quality thats crap we all know that the other route has no issues when quality comes into it, yes ppl re endocde movies but most do so at a 30% compression factor not picked up by the human eye (only in a diagnostic tool would you realise its lowerbit rate) As for games .exe (NO CD) the end user doesnt have to go through the rigmorale of installing and wiating on a disc to be detected by some condescending anti copy protection. Its obtrusive an invasion as the least and points the finger at teh legitimate user as if they would pirate something they own!

damn right dumb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly im a massive fan of GTA i have bought every version from the first version on PC right through to GTA-SA, i dont mind paying a premium for such a game as it is worth every cent.  But i have seen GTA IV as nothing but a great idea which the end result for PC opwners with capable hardware limited due to the imposements of no dual card support no 64 bit support and a really shoddy optimization or port from console to PC. thos things in time could have been ironed out i guess but my valid reason i did not buy this game is that unbeleviably condescending anti piracy routine that makes the enjoyment of loading the game and going to play and save it an insult to what the developers think us users will endure.</p>
<p>I dont see why legitimate users always have to cop the brunt end of things i.e like mentioned above anti piracy advertisements on movies etc, all this does is promote ppl to go the other route as none of this nonsense is on them, as for being lesser quality thats crap we all know that the other route has no issues when quality comes into it, yes ppl re endocde movies but most do so at a 30% compression factor not picked up by the human eye (only in a diagnostic tool would you realise its lowerbit rate) As for games .exe (NO CD) the end user doesnt have to go through the rigmorale of installing and wiating on a disc to be detected by some condescending anti copy protection. Its obtrusive an invasion as the least and points the finger at teh legitimate user as if they would pirate something they own!</p>
<p>damn right dumb</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.pcgamefuntime.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/d6b210014bbad4e.png" alt="Hyperforce Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Hyperforce</title>
		<link>http://www.pcgamefuntime.com/2008/12/grand-theft-auto-iv-drm-debacle/#comment-2097</link>
		<dc:creator><img class="identicon" src="http://www.pcgamefuntime.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/d6b210014bbad4e.png" alt="Hyperforce Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Hyperforce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 06:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought this game yesturday... installed it and started it up.

The first thing I noticed was that I needed to start up an external client to launch the game...
After that I noticed that I needed a windows live account to be registered to my name in order to SAVE MY GAME.
What is this thing doing... save my progress online?

... See, I can handle SecuROM... I don't like it but I won't complain because it runs silently and doesn't get in the way. I can handle a seperate client to play online, but don't force me to use it when I want t play a single player game as well... and then whats up with making me sign into my hotmail account to save my progress... I'll be returning this game to the store first change I get today.  This anti-piracy countermeasure basicly causes people to pirate the game... just because they won't have to deal with these countermeasures...
 Cause no gamer should have to wade through this horse maneur in order to play something that he/she bought</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought this game yesturday&#8230; installed it and started it up.</p>
<p>The first thing I noticed was that I needed to start up an external client to launch the game&#8230;<br />
After that I noticed that I needed a windows live account to be registered to my name in order to SAVE MY GAME.<br />
What is this thing doing&#8230; save my progress online?</p>
<p>&#8230; See, I can handle SecuROM&#8230; I don&#8217;t like it but I won&#8217;t complain because it runs silently and doesn&#8217;t get in the way. I can handle a seperate client to play online, but don&#8217;t force me to use it when I want t play a single player game as well&#8230; and then whats up with making me sign into my hotmail account to save my progress&#8230; I&#8217;ll be returning this game to the store first change I get today.  This anti-piracy countermeasure basicly causes people to pirate the game&#8230; just because they won&#8217;t have to deal with these countermeasures&#8230;<br />
 Cause no gamer should have to wade through this horse maneur in order to play something that he/she bought</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.pcgamefuntime.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/a57c5d1bcd8006e.png" alt="Arthromitor Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Arthromitor</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sort of thing is part of why some gamers have gone over to consoles, but it is also why other gamers (esp stratagy gamers) have gone over to the less well known publishers and game companies.  Matrix, Paradox, and Stardock all release games with varying degrees of protection.
With all this fear of piracy and blaming it for the poor sales of games that often preform poorly on the average computer, when are they going to start blaming the game rental companies for the poor sales of games on the consoles?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sort of thing is part of why some gamers have gone over to consoles, but it is also why other gamers (esp stratagy gamers) have gone over to the less well known publishers and game companies.  Matrix, Paradox, and Stardock all release games with varying degrees of protection.<br />
With all this fear of piracy and blaming it for the poor sales of games that often preform poorly on the average computer, when are they going to start blaming the game rental companies for the poor sales of games on the consoles?</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.pcgamefuntime.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/d237657793b5382.png" alt="Molloy Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Molloy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's an awful shame. I don't have a current gen console and I was looking forward to trying this. 

Now I'm thinking I should probably wait a couple of months. After Christmas they'll probably patch out the SecuROM (which actually made my entire computer drive to a crawl with Bioshock and take 7 or 10 minutes to even boot up). 

This is no way to treat paying consumers. They're only encouraging piracy at this stage not discouraging. It's like being forced to watch long anti-piracy advertisements on DVDs you buy, and that you don't have to watch on copied movies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an awful shame. I don&#8217;t have a current gen console and I was looking forward to trying this. </p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m thinking I should probably wait a couple of months. After Christmas they&#8217;ll probably patch out the SecuROM (which actually made my entire computer drive to a crawl with Bioshock and take 7 or 10 minutes to even boot up). </p>
<p>This is no way to treat paying consumers. They&#8217;re only encouraging piracy at this stage not discouraging. It&#8217;s like being forced to watch long anti-piracy advertisements on DVDs you buy, and that you don&#8217;t have to watch on copied movies.</p>
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